Yup, thats a proper quiet bike and a nicer seat than the CRF230 with a real back brake too.
As you suggest, they havent quite got the build quality, a sort of Jailing quality Honda ?
But the Argentinian built CRF 230 Honda doesnt quite make the grade either.
Apparently they do look nice with dark plastics though
Having put 2000 miles off road on my CRF 230 in 4 months, dont knock the back brake until you have tried it, at its always there and very effective and doesnt bend as happens to a lot of discs.
Quiet as a mouse, hauls my 14 stone anywhere, and uses about 5 litres for 6 hours running, and have just done 60 miles today on my own, and no one knew I was there, theres stealthy for you!!!!!
And what are you whinging about a seat for, get off the thing you sit on it with and alter it to your spec. you do that with the rest of the bike, why not the seat, but then its not something you can buy and bolt on, so its a bit of DIY
The rear brake on my CRF230 has been a big disappointment. The shoes seem to wear out in no time and the last set had the friction material debond from the metal backing earlier on the same day that had the front brake circuit fail due to fluid loss. Think the drum brakes dont like water.
The seat is not bad enough to motivate me to core drill the foam, its just that the seat foam on the CCM felt more 'welcoming'.
The only real moan with the CRF230 is the suspension.
The 'one size fits all' setup is fine for pottering but a long day out with bigger bikes doing bigger distances, has me feeling a bit battered around the seat/arse interface and doing two days on going like Sarn Helen and Strata Florida is no fun at all, as the trade off between monkey butt and and creaking knee joints becomes painful.
So a good stealth bike but not a good long distance bike I reckon.
If you want a few ideas on disc straightening, I have pulled out up to 0.25 of an inch, using a dial gauge, a marker pen and a big tyre lever. I dont even remove the wheel from the bike.
STEALTH ~ E riders ride so quietly at sensible speeds the rear brake is rarely if ever applied, therefore the slowing effect of a drum rear brake is quite acceptable!
STEALTH ~ E riders ride so quietly at sensible speeds the rear brake is rarely if ever applied, therefore the slowing effect of a drum rear brake is quite acceptable!
Ahh this is the stealthy approach, by not touching the back brake, the only sound to be heard will be the dull landing thud as the pilot flys over the bars, due to the front brake being applied. It will however satisfy the environmentallists, providing the injureds screams are kept to a minimum
The rear brake on my CRF230 has been a big disappointment. The shoes seem to wear out in no time and the last set had the friction material debond from the metal backing earlier on the same day that had the front brake circuit fail due to fluid loss. Think the drum brakes dont like water.
The seat is not bad enough to motivate me to core drill the foam, its just that the seat foam on the CCM felt more 'welcoming'.
The only real moan with the CRF230 is the suspension.
The 'one size fits all' setup is fine for pottering but a long day out with bigger bikes doing bigger distances, has me feeling a bit battered around the seat/arse interface and doing two days on going like Sarn Helen and Strata Florida is no fun at all, as the trade off between monkey butt and and creaking knee joints becomes painful.
So a good stealth bike but not a good long distance bike I reckon.
If you want a few ideas on disc straightening, I have pulled out up to 0.25 of an inch, using a dial gauge, a marker pen and a big tyre lever. I dont even remove the wheel from the bike.
whisp
It all depends on whose shoes you fit, like most things you get what you pay for, never had any probs with top quality shoes
Had no probs with the suspenders on my CRF run all day and never a sore arse
Must compare notes one day on disc straightening, I have pulled some BIG dings out up to 1 inch
STEALTH ~ E riders ride so quietly at sensible speeds the rear brake is rarely if ever applied, therefore the slowing effect of a drum rear brake is quite acceptable!
and not forgetting a stealth ~ e rider always has his machine in the correct gear and perfect velocity is maintained by throttle and careful adjustment of the magneto advance and retard lever, a mere touch on the decompression lever will controll even the most hazardous of decents, and thus using the engine braking of the long stroke four stroke motor alone, the necessity of applying brakes can be avoided.
Perhaps this is where the modern motorcycle manufacturer should look to proper stealth riders like Hugh Viney, Bob Mann and Harvey Mushmann
